Thursday, May 09, 2013

I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned...

National Post: Holy Post - Large Portions of Canadians Denying Religious Affiliation
Typical Conversation -
John Allen:
Just continues to amaze me the ignorance of modern people and their continued belief in all things supernatural - be it ghosts or goblins or age old mysticism of religions of ANY kind..
      Simple Man
               It continues to amaze me that anyone would write off the possibility when it can                never be disproved.
Prove magic is real and we might consider your god more than a figment of imagination and fairy tales.
You dismiss vampires and fairies without much second thought, but the moment everyone's favorite magic man in the sky gets involved (god) then it's confusing why he gets waved off. How many other deities get waved off that people have killed and died fighting for? Rome had an entire pantheon!
Simple Man:
                                                                 By what standard should it be proved?
As I told you yesterday on another thread; Christianity is not about some pie-in-the-sky. Christianity is about the God-man Jesus Christ who walked this earth, claimed to be God, did miracles, rose from the read and established a church that 2000 years later is two-billion people strong.
Jesus miracles and divinity were attested by eye-witness accounts and corroborated even by those who hated and wished they could dismiss him.
I provided you ample proof for belief in Christ's divinity and you dismissed it all out of hand without considering it.
The same standards by which one would prove that something is true: by observation and evidence.
We know gravity works because we can observe its effects. We know what causes gravity, and we are bound by it.
So by those standards, we can look at god and deem a lack of evidence for his existence.
How could one demonstrate proof for god? A demonstrable and repeatable supernatural (as in something beyond scientific explanation) incident.
For instance, a priest stands on a street corner in the middle of a city on a clear and sunny day, and speaks a word and rocks fall from the sky. That would convince me that something supernatural had occurred. And if it happened again, I would be convinced that a supernatural entity were involved.
That's not a lot to ask for, considering Jesus himself said that prayer can move mountains. I'm only asking for a few rocks.
   Simple Man:
Creation testifies to the glory of God and the skies above proclaim his handiwork.
If individuals can look at the intricacy and complexity of nature, from our DNA to distant stars, the functioning of our brain and laws of nature which allow us to live, move and breathe - and then conclude that there is no God... rocks falling from the sky will be easy to dismiss.
It must be an asteroid or meteor, the priest must be an astronomer / scientist on the side and been able to calculate the trajectory of the fragments... Our brain can do incredible gymnastics when faced with a reality we don't like.
Jesus has created a universe in which the evidence for his existence is obvious for those who are willing to bow the knee to his supremacy. Jesus came to this earth as further proof of God's presence and existence. Jesus testified -
'Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.'
Jesus also stated - 'Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.' The contingent factor on knowing whether Jesus is God is first being willing to follow God - you must "taste and see" that God is good.
Augustine put it this way - 'Seek not to understand that you may believe, but to believe that you may understand'.
Jesus said - “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
Again, Jesus says - “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do."
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." - (Hebrews 11:6)
I realize you will likely accept none of this, but this is how it pleased God to make the Universe - "Shall the clay say to the potter - 'what are you making'"?

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